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David
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| 07/27/2009 5:21 PM |
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| I think Clare makes some very good points. The only thing I would add is while you shouldn't expect a guy to be perfect, you shouldn't be ok with a guy who is too "rough." Often, the inside of a rough guy is a rough interior. However, I think the point Clare was trying to make, a point which I agree with, is that you shouldn't expect a guy to be too perfect, and you should always wait and wait and wait. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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JoJo
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| 07/28/2009 1:38 AM |
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Ok my post has nothing, really to do with the convo... but I was reading the "female body" topic and thought I should state something...
Guys might find girls who are naked "alluring" but I think girls find naked guys not that alluring....
IDK maybe it's just me but ew... I actually think speedo's etc are gross and idk it's just ew! am I the only one who thinks this? it would be interesting to hear other girls POV's. |
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Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live
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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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David
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| 07/28/2009 11:39 AM |
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and you should always wait and wait and wait.
This should read "shouldn't always wait and wait and wait."
Jojo, are you saying the naked male form is gross to you? What will you do when you get married? Guys want to be physically attractive to their women. Thinking the male form (and here I mean the typically unseen parts, as you yourself have said you find a toned guy attractive) gross or simply non-alluring can be very hurtful to a guy. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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JoJo
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| 07/28/2009 6:30 PM |
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I know, and I wasn't meaning that in a hurtful way... I was meaning in general...
IDk what will happen when I get married. im not in the situation, so I dont know  but most likely it wont bother me...
IDK maybe for me it's because most guys around here are so vulgur (how do you spell it??) that it just puts me off? i honestly have no idea.... I was trying to say that guy's body's just arent AS attractive to girls as girls are to guys... not saying they're not at all...
and I do apoligise for sounding the way that post did... I was having a fight with my bro at the time, so I was kinda distracted and probably sounded meaner than i was trying to sound... (I wasn't trying to be mean ) |
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Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live
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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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David
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| 07/28/2009 7:06 PM |
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I don't think you sounded mean. I meant that when you get married, ideally you will find "it" to be attractive and likable and not unattractive and gross.
I once skimmed through a Christian-based book on sexuality within marriage. I came across something very disturbing. In a chapter for women, the author actually had to say something to the effect of, "When you see 'it,' do not say, 'that's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.'" The reason why that is disturbing to me is the question of why would he even have to say that? I sincerely hope that most girls and women do not think in such a way as to think "it" is gross. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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artyprincess
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| 07/29/2009 5:20 AM |
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Now you are making me blush. Let me cross that bridge when I get to it! (coming from someone who can't handle "that" section in her coming science textbooks)
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Nicole
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| 07/30/2009 4:55 AM |
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I do think physical appearances play a good role in attraction. I do believe the male physique is an attractive thing; when i see a cute guy, i try not to stare, i prefer not to anyways. What do girls find so attractive about the male body? Well, it's kind of hard to explain... the first thing i notice about a guy is his face, then his body. I guess one way to put it is, if he has muscles, and is toned, then it screams, strong! And that is attractive in a guy. Did that make any sense?  I'm sorry, it's about 2 am here, and i should be getting to bed now. |
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whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect -Mark Twain |
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David
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| 07/30/2009 11:15 AM |
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Are you then saying it would be more likely for a girl to be attracted to a guy who was good looking and in shape? Would this then render the parts in FYMO that state that looks aren't a factor to girls false?
My personal opinion, and please tell me I'm wrong, is that girls think looks aren't a big deal, and maybe they aren't as big a deal as they are to guys, but that looks definitely are a factor. All other things being equal, I just can't imagine a girl wanting to be with an ugly guy over an attractive guy. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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Christina
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| 07/30/2009 11:42 AM |
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You would be correct in that. While looks are not incredibly important. It would be very hard for me to be with someone I did not find attractive, but in saying that I can honestly say I have ever looked at a guy and not found something about them that I didn't find attractive.
So before anyone gets disappointed with the fact that yes looks are important. I find myself attracted to the "geeky" guys more so than the overly buff, amazingly gorgeous guys. Because... well honestly I have no idea why. Lol 
So I don't want to seem like I'm putting down you guys at all. But just in my experience with my friends while looks are important we tend to take a deeper look.
Oh and another thing. Someone who when I first look at them and didn't think they were amzingly gorgeous but just ok at first, as I got to know them became to me more attractive than those Models at Holister. (I hate that store) And vice versa for someone that I thought at first glance was really cute, once I got to know them they became less attractive in my eyes.
So although I do need to be attracted to my partner that is directly influenced by how they are inside and what kind of person they are. |
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Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will recieve the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
James 1:12
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Christina
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| 07/30/2009 11:43 AM |
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| I totally meant that I have never looked at a guy and found something wasn't attractive. Oops |
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Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will recieve the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
James 1:12
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JoJo
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| 07/30/2009 6:17 PM |
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Um o.k.
#1 looks are not THAT important...
as i have said b4, often I find the guy annoying, and not exactly the best looker...
and when i get to know him, his personality shines through and then I think he's attractive, and then I think he's cute or whatever...
I mean, anyone can find anyone attractive. thats why in other cultures and such, arranged marriages do work, cuz you "learn" to love the person, no matter what they look like etc.
(Watch Fiddler On The Roof)
#2, yeah i can be "innitially" attracted to a guy, but even if I am, their personality will override whatever i thought of them, looks wise.
O.K. yes, one guy I liked had an awesome personality, and wasnt exactly the brightest crayon in the box, but I liked him... which normally wouldn't be a bad thing, but this guy had horrible morals... (he wasn't a player or anything...) and he wasn't a christian.
So I'm glad that friendship didn't go anywhere
IDK do you get what I'm saying about the "looks" part not being a major factor?
i donno how else to explain it... |
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Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live
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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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David
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| 07/30/2009 6:57 PM |
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Let me ask this way.
Let's say you meet two guys. Both of them are confident, charming, witty, strong Christians, and possess personalities and characters that elicit in you an equal amount of attraction. Based solely on their personalities, these guys are equal. However, let's say that one of the guys is very good looking and the other is, at best, plain looking and, at worst, downright ugly. Who do you choose? |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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JoJo
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| 07/30/2009 9:30 PM |
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Well honestly, it would depend... cuz what i think is handsom and what someone else thinks is handsom is completely different...
It would also depend on which one liked me and who said something first, but they'd probably both be my friends unless one or the other said something, but I could go for either |
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Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live
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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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David
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| 07/30/2009 9:43 PM |
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When I describe their looks I am describing them from your perspective. This means that when I say one is physically good looking that means he is physically good looking to you, and vice versa.
Let's say, for hypothetical purposes, that they both like you and both ask you out at the same time. You now have to choose between the two. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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JoJo
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| 07/30/2009 11:01 PM |
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O.K.
well honestly, Id kinda have to be in the situation to know what I was gonna do...
seeing as i've never been asked out by a guy I actually liked I'd have no clue what i'd do... what do you other girls think? |
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Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live
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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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Sandy
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| 07/31/2009 12:19 AM |
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| well i would choose a guy for how he makes me feel. so depending on what a guy makes me feel is the guy that i would be more attracted to. I noticed that they're are a lot of qualities that i can name in a guy and see the same one's in another. the difference though would always be how i felt when with the guy. |
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David
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| 07/31/2009 12:30 AM |
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| In the situation I described above, the guys make you feel the same. Based on personality, you are equally attracted to both. The only difference between the two is how they look. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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artyprincess
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| 07/31/2009 3:17 AM |
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Huh. Well, if they were exactly the same on the inside, why wouldn't we want someone who looks 'cute' with us? I don't believe I'm shallow - but we're talking EXACTLY the same mentally, so of course I'd pick the guy who looks good. It's like choosing between two cupcakes that have the same decorations - why would I want the sloppily spread one with the lollies askew when I can have the pristine one??!! my 2c!
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David
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| 07/31/2009 9:26 AM |
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| Finally, a girl admits that looks actually can make a difference, even if just a little bit. As much as I enjoyed FYMO, it gives us the impression that girls don't care about looks. Of course girls care about looks, just not to the extent that guys care (don't get me wrong, though, girls have an equivalent desire that is equally as significant or insignificant, depending on how you look at it). I think one worry a lot of guys may have is that no matter how awesome, good, strong, whatever they are, there will always be a guy that is better - and the girl will want the better guy. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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Koudee
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| 07/31/2009 9:49 AM |
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How you look effects the way you make her feel.
Take care of yourself, let the breath of that follow your actions and in that genuine quality Women see the true Beauty of Men.
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